Comments on: Still feeling Ike down South http://www.thegasgame.com/2008/10/02/still-feeling-ike-down-south/ Keep track of gasoline prices, oil prices, future gasoline prices, future oil prices, see predictions, get price prediction, find gasoline prices, see if you're getting gouged, find news about diesel prices, ethanol prices, and refinery maintenance and refinery shutdowns. Tue, 07 Feb 2012 16:59:14 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: DanielG http://www.thegasgame.com/2008/10/02/still-feeling-ike-down-south/comment-page-1/#comment-1816 DanielG Fri, 03 Oct 2008 15:42:34 +0000 http://www.thegasgame.com/2008/10/02/still-feeling-ike-down-south/#comment-1816 Its great to see capacity being added to the mix, especially at Toledo...where I have a feeling a lot of Michigans, especially eastern Michigans fuel comes from. Let me ask this though...how much capacity is being taken off line due to equipment age at any given time? I must assume that with additions also come subtractions. Second question is this: We get our fuel (west Michigan) for the most part off the Ferrysburg rack. Where does that actually come from? BP in Whiting? And via boat/barge or pipeline? Opps more than one question. And a follow up on previous comment in another part of your site...I am a railroad conductor in GRR and we sent 8 tank cars of alcohol to Muskegon Wednesday. It came from a plant in the Cincinnatti area. That is an ongoing thing but the alcohol usually comes from Minnesota or southern Illinois. First I'd seen from Cinnci area. Goes to a chem distributor who I thnk unloads for a fuel distributor. We also get a lot of hot asphalt going to Iko Midwest in Kankakee. Iko is a major shingle/roofing supplier to the midwest. We also get a lot of sulphuric acid going to BP Amoco in Whiting. I'm thinking its all out of northwest Ohio refineries but I'll check on that. Fascinating how this circle of products goes round and round isn't it? Its great to see capacity being added to the mix, especially at Toledo…where I have a feeling a lot of Michigans, especially eastern Michigans fuel comes from.
Let me ask this though…how much capacity is being taken off line due to equipment age at any given time? I must assume that with additions also come subtractions.
Second question is this: We get our fuel (west Michigan) for the most part off the Ferrysburg rack. Where does that actually come from? BP in Whiting? And via boat/barge or pipeline? Opps more than one question.
And a follow up on previous comment in another part of your site…I am a railroad conductor in GRR and we sent 8 tank cars of alcohol to Muskegon Wednesday. It came from a plant in the Cincinnatti area. That is an ongoing thing but the alcohol usually comes from Minnesota or southern Illinois. First I’d seen from Cinnci area. Goes to a chem distributor who I thnk unloads for a fuel distributor.
We also get a lot of hot asphalt going to Iko Midwest in Kankakee. Iko is a major shingle/roofing supplier to the midwest. We also get a lot of sulphuric acid going to BP Amoco in Whiting. I’m thinking its all out of northwest Ohio refineries but I’ll check on that.
Fascinating how this circle of products goes round and round isn’t it?

]]> By: Retailer http://www.thegasgame.com/2008/10/02/still-feeling-ike-down-south/comment-page-1/#comment-1815 Retailer Fri, 03 Oct 2008 15:34:38 +0000 http://www.thegasgame.com/2008/10/02/still-feeling-ike-down-south/#comment-1815 My brother lives in Atlanta and he says that it is horrible. He drives around on his lunch hour trying to find some place with less than an hour wait. Plus, when you find a station with gas, it is a 10 gallon limit. I guess that the people that have "premium only" cars are pretty much screwed, because none of the stations want to waste a compartment in the delivery truck with premium. Marathon is also expanding their Garyville, Louisiana refinery by 256,000 bpd (which brings it up to 425,000), which should come online 4th quarter of 2009. The expansion stats normally get left out of the articles that point out that the US went from over 300 refineries down to 150 and that no new refinery has been built since 1976 (Marathon's Garyville refinery). But, the refineries that closed were all small unprofitable refineries with no ability to expand. Most of the remaining refineries have doubled their size in the last 40 years. My brother lives in Atlanta and he says that it is horrible. He drives around on his lunch hour trying to find some place with less than an hour wait. Plus, when you find a station with gas, it is a 10 gallon limit. I guess that the people that have “premium only” cars are pretty much screwed, because none of the stations want to waste a compartment in the delivery truck with premium.

Marathon is also expanding their Garyville, Louisiana refinery by 256,000 bpd (which brings it up to 425,000), which should come online 4th quarter of 2009.

The expansion stats normally get left out of the articles that point out that the US went from over 300 refineries down to 150 and that no new refinery has been built since 1976 (Marathon’s Garyville refinery). But, the refineries that closed were all small unprofitable refineries with no ability to expand. Most of the remaining refineries have doubled their size in the last 40 years.

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