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	<title>Comments on: Prices are lower all around us, what gives?!</title>
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		<title>By: Lonnie</title>
		<link>http://www.thegasgame.com/2008/09/20/prices-are-lower-all-around-us-what-gives/comment-page-1/#comment-1790</link>
		<dc:creator>Lonnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 03:00:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here in Kalamazoo its 3.75.. Battle Creek is 3.85.. Why is that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here in Kalamazoo its 3.75.. Battle Creek is 3.85.. Why is that?</p>
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		<title>By: Retailer</title>
		<link>http://www.thegasgame.com/2008/09/20/prices-are-lower-all-around-us-what-gives/comment-page-1/#comment-1785</link>
		<dc:creator>Retailer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:11:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian: The &quot;price zone&quot; situation that you are referring to only applies to stations that are owned by an oil company and leased to a dealer. The dealer pays monthly rent and whatever they decide to charge him for gas deliveries (not actual rack prices).

In a way it makes sense, real estate prices and taxes are going to be different in different parts of a big city and from city to city.  They should charge more in the areas that cost more to be in. The real question is if they should charge more per gallon or in rent.  Rent seems more fair to the dealer.

But, we don&#039;t have that problem in Michigan. There are very few stations that are owned by oil companies and leased to dealers. I can&#039;t even think of a station like that, but I know there are a few in Detroit.

The oil companies want as little to do with the retail part of gasoline as they can. They prefer to only deal with companies like ours referred to as Jobbers that own and/or supply multiple stations. That way, we deal with 99% of the problems and rarely have to call them. We only see someone from the oil company at a station less than 2 times per year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian: The &#8220;price zone&#8221; situation that you are referring to only applies to stations that are owned by an oil company and leased to a dealer. The dealer pays monthly rent and whatever they decide to charge him for gas deliveries (not actual rack prices).</p>
<p>In a way it makes sense, real estate prices and taxes are going to be different in different parts of a big city and from city to city.  They should charge more in the areas that cost more to be in. The real question is if they should charge more per gallon or in rent.  Rent seems more fair to the dealer.</p>
<p>But, we don&#8217;t have that problem in Michigan. There are very few stations that are owned by oil companies and leased to dealers. I can&#8217;t even think of a station like that, but I know there are a few in Detroit.</p>
<p>The oil companies want as little to do with the retail part of gasoline as they can. They prefer to only deal with companies like ours referred to as Jobbers that own and/or supply multiple stations. That way, we deal with 99% of the problems and rarely have to call them. We only see someone from the oil company at a station less than 2 times per year.</p>
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		<title>By: brian mcbee</title>
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		<dc:creator>brian mcbee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 22:29:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you were asking why grand rapids is higher than everyone else
 well i am not sure if you know this or not 
but i read a online report they did when they investigated gas prices
 and how they are set 
 the refinerys set the price according to demand 
and they have &quot;price zones&quot;
a zone can be several gas stations in a small area or as few as 1 gas station 
most oil/refinery companys have about 150 to 200 price zones nation wide
 thats why here in my area (st louis mo)the gas is 3.69 in fenton which is south of st louis but only 3.59 in north st louis
 the rack prices can have several small(+or-.10 to .20 cents) variances over a large metropolitan area depending were the actual gas station is
the refinerys/oil companys say they have to do this to keep the volume within a certan range  to maxamise profits 
in my opinion its a type of price fixing because the refinerys controll this price and individual gas stations have no say in this</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you were asking why grand rapids is higher than everyone else<br />
 well i am not sure if you know this or not<br />
but i read a online report they did when they investigated gas prices<br />
 and how they are set<br />
 the refinerys set the price according to demand<br />
and they have &#8220;price zones&#8221;<br />
a zone can be several gas stations in a small area or as few as 1 gas station<br />
most oil/refinery companys have about 150 to 200 price zones nation wide<br />
 thats why here in my area (st louis mo)the gas is 3.69 in fenton which is south of st louis but only 3.59 in north st louis<br />
 the rack prices can have several small(+or-.10 to .20 cents) variances over a large metropolitan area depending were the actual gas station is<br />
the refinerys/oil companys say they have to do this to keep the volume within a certan range  to maxamise profits<br />
in my opinion its a type of price fixing because the refinerys controll this price and individual gas stations have no say in this</p>
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		<title>By: Sue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 20:44:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lowell is ALWAYS lower than me (Rockford) and I am always higher than G.R.  The Mobil station 2 miles north of me (14 Mile &amp; Northland Dr) is ALWAYS 10 cents cheaper than Meijer, BP (131 &amp; 10 Mile) and downtown Rockford.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lowell is ALWAYS lower than me (Rockford) and I am always higher than G.R.  The Mobil station 2 miles north of me (14 Mile &amp; Northland Dr) is ALWAYS 10 cents cheaper than Meijer, BP (131 &amp; 10 Mile) and downtown Rockford.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 17:45:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was up north of Muskegon on Friday and at the town of Rothbury it was 3.78 a gallon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was up north of Muskegon on Friday and at the town of Rothbury it was 3.78 a gallon.</p>
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